red optic brandy vase or goblet?

[biddaeverything]

Hello again,
I had posted this vase to an american glass board and it was suggested that it might be italian (it was also suggested that it might be morgantown or pilgrim) and I was wondering if it might look familiar to anyone here. It's a whopping 11" tall and has an interesting vertical rib/dot pattern that brings out a yellow/orange color when light is shone through. Any ideas?
http://www.schellers.org/ebay_images/redcom1.jpghttp://www.schellers.org/ebay_images/redcom2.jpg
Thanks,
Bidda

[TxSilver]

I'm not much help, but I did want to say that your vase looks like ruby amberina. You may want to look through Blenko, Pilgrim, Viking, and Morgantown. They did a lot of work in ruby amberina. Many companies did, of course. Fenton should be marked, so if it's not, that eliminates that. LE Smith tended towards heavier pattern pieces. Morgantown has some pieces where the separation of colors is very nice -- something I noted in your vase.

Maybe you'll be able to find out more if you look under ruby amberina. I love the pillar-type optic dots. It is a beautiful vase.

Anita

[biddaeverything]

Thank you, Anita :D
I think it's pretty too.
Last night I was lucky enough to get a positive ID - It's a Morgantown Optic Brandy Vase. I've been sifting through the internet bit by bit for days and I still haven't found a picture of it, which would make me feel better :) but a woman on an american glass board assures me that her ID is correct and based upon several books she has on Morgantown, Blenko and other American glass companies as well as glass in her own collection. So, I'm pretty confident in her assessment.
Thank you again, for having a look and offering your comments. I really do appreciate it :D Being a "newbie" for the most part, it really helps a LOT to know you don't have to fly blind EVERY time when searching for the origins of a pretty piece of glass.
Have a beautiful day!

Bidda
I'm not much help, but I did want to say that your vase looks like ruby amberina. You may want to look through Blenko, Pilgrim, Viking, and Morgantown. They did a lot of work in ruby amberina. Many companies did, of course. Fenton should be marked, so if it's not, that eliminates that. LE Smith tended towards heavier pattern pieces. Morgantown has some pieces where the separation of colors is very nice -- something I noted in your vase.

Maybe you'll be able to find out more if you look under ruby amberina. I love the pillar-type optic dots. It is a beautiful vase.

Anita

[biddaeverything]

Ha... so much for "positive" ID. Since then, I've been told that it's Empoli. I don't know what to believe. Still haven't found an image of the exact shape or optic. Any ideas?

Bidda

[TxSilver]

Glass will make one crazy when it isn't marked :eek: I'm glad that you brought up Empoli, because it led me to a link for Interglass: http://www.interglass.it/index.html
There are a few stems in the first picture that I've seen a few times lately. Now I know who made the stems.

Is Empoli a company or is it a consortium of companies? In the little time I've been into glass, I've learned that nothing is clear. Companies merging, selling patterns, and making glass for other companies has been so common throughout history that it can be difficult to attribute many of the designs to a particular company.

Your vase is pretty, no matter who did it. If you plan to sell it, however, it is hard to get a fair price without an ID. I'll definitely keep my eyes open for the design.

Anita

[biddaeverything]

Anita,
it's my understanding that Empoli is a city in Italy (much the way Murano is an island of Italy) and not a specific company or artist attribution... However, in my searching thusfar, I've found that often "Rossini Empoli Glass Italy" is what appears on labels when present on the vessel. I do not know of Rossini Empoli is a person, place or thing.

Bidda