No answer about corroso vase ??

[bonitao123]

Please at all senior and junior member, i m very interest in know who s glass maker
of this corroso vase.
It is very " different". His body is in corroso ....decoration are not.
I know first modern glass artist used this tecnich is Carlo Scarpa.
Vase design remember " Martinuzzi " , but i ve never seen a Martinuzzi in corroso tecnich.

If some one would help me, or indicate me some direction, i ll be very glad

[glassman]

bonitao123,
It is not something that jogged my memory, at least not the corroso.
The vase seems to be of a familiar style, as you mentioned.

[TxSilver]

The handles on the vase remind me of a corroso, earth tone vase by Barovier that is in Murano Magic. However, I do not get a Barovier feel from the vase in this thread. The feel of the vase is more basic, despite the corroso imagery. There are a couple of artists names that pop into my mind, but not with any good reason (Nason and Ferro). I believe it is because they both did complex pieces that had the feel of being basic. This piece is different from things I've seen them do, so I doubt that it is theirs.

Do you know how old the piece is?

Anita

[TxSilver]

I tried to edit my last message, but didn't have much luck. I searched the internet tonight and found several corroso pieces done by the Murano houses. The ones that looked most like the vase in this thread were attributed to Seguso, but they did not have applied handles.

Anita

[bonitao123]

This vase for desing and for other reason is dated between midle of 30's and beinning of 60's.
Corroso tecnique was at top in this period and desused after 60 for ecologicals problems.
Desing would be dated not in sixty, difficulty in fifthy, may be and 30's and beginning of 40,s.
At this time who worked corroso tecnique was Carlo Scarpa, at this time
Scarpa work for Venini who acid signed only a few item , not all.
But i feel this desing how impossible to attribuited to scarpa, his style was more clean.
Martinuzzi made this desing at same time and 30 and middle of 40' but i did not find nothing about corroso tecnique used from him.
One explication would be that the vase originally was totally corroso tecnique and whitout handle. Handles was applied after
Or would be another explication, vase is not murano, it was made whit other tecnique like " lost wax" from french glass maker who experimented corroso techinque. As we find some lalique or devesn vase, very similar .

[bonitao123]

Probabily this vase was influcenced for rene' lalique ( amiens vase remember this one ) pic 1 - Amiens is dated 1929
At this time ( 1929 ) Martinuzzi produced vases design with Handle who remember this vase pic 2 (he works for Venini at this time - he start 1925), and he is director of glass murano museum.
Carlo Scarpa at this time work for Cappellin (till 1932) and design vases in different style pic 2.his first corroso work are dated 1936, and never influenced for Lalique.

I belive Napoleone Martinuzzi tryed to " made a variation of Rene Lalique amiens vase, and so not use opalescent tecnich try to substitue whit corroso for obtain same visual effect . But this only rest a experience.

I did find no similar item from Barovier or Toso or Ferro.

What do you think about this reflexion ??

[TxSilver]

I checked for various corroso pieces and found that most of the famous houses did corroso pieces. A few artists designed pieces for Venini and others designed for Seguso. I mention these two houses because your piece reminds me most of some of the things that have been made by them. The addition of the handle may have just been the whim of the designer, or it may indicate, like you said, the artist was influenced by glass that was popular at the time. The Barovier corroso vase that is pictured in Murano Magic was made in 1936, but the handles appear to be like thick ridges with no openings. Your dating of your vase to the 1930-40's seems very likely.

I do think your vase is an earlier corroso piece. Contemporary corroso tends to look more like satin glass to me. Perhaps the pollution that you mentioned made them change their techniques -- I don't know.

I hope that you can find out exactly who did your vase.

Anita

[bonitao123]

Dear Madam
more info about vase date and tecnich
see thi pictures: seller date vase 1930 exactly and attribue to Scarpa
for Venini ( is signed )
They are certanly from same glass maker ( venini ) but for me Scarpa at this time did not work for Venini, at this time who worked for Venini was Martinuzzi. Or vase is later age after 1935 when Scarpa begin working for Venini.
At this time i quite sure Vase if from Venini e desined from Martinuzzi

Let me Know your opinion
All the best

[bonitao123]

All i write above is true. But i red Yesterday that, 1930 Scarpa working for Cappelin go to word exposition of Paris ( He is charged to make the set for Cappellin Exposition). So probabily he knows new Rene Lalique works.
At this time all " venetian glass maker " try to superate the fragil visually of tranparent glass). Art is changing and they are obliged to change techincs of apparece of glass.In this direction alls murano artist experiments news techich for murano glass, for change apparence. Martinuzzi re invent the pulegoso glass, and Scarpa after many tentatives find corroso velato battuto and other .
It means that in this period all murano desinher experiment all, and infuenced for new " art" change forms..........
So at this point vase is certanly from Venini, but il would be Martinuzzi ( for style) or Scarpa ( for thecnicH)
I sent a e mail to Venini.com asking for helping .

[TxSilver]

I ran across this today when I was trying to get some idea about my new decanter. I think it is the same as your corroso vase. Your idea about Lalique may have been even more correct than anyone thought.

http://www.glasshound.com/Pierre_Davesn_art_glass_vase_317.html

Is it the same?

Anita

[bonitao123]

Thanks
You Are Incredible.

All My Consideration

Ps Next Forum Will Be On A Big Dorico Murano Vase
Questions Will Be Barovier ???

[TxSilver]

You are certainly welcome. I am glad that Glasshound had such a good picture on their site. It is a valuable piece. I know you are proud to own it.

Waiting for the big Dorico vase. I do not know what Dorico is, so I doubt I will be very helpful unless I stumble upon a picture while looking for something else :)

Anita

[fossilfly]

Thanks
You Are Incredible.

All My Consideration


I agree ! Wow. That was a great find. Great detective work! :)

[publius71]

I agree ! Wow. That was a great find. Great detective work! :)

Yes. Wonderful attribution TXSilver!